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Originally Posted by Schultzy
So in short you think we shouldn't beg the developers to do something that they're not obligated to do and they wont do now that they have our money, not that you would do that anyway and besides there are modders around who'll fix it, not that you would if you were them. Clear as mud, thanks. 
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Your very welcome... but...
First up, no, I don't think we should beg. The game was not up to par, millions of copies of a below par game are sold, if the companies behind SH4 thought anything of their customers they would make a concerned effort to fix it without the need of said customers to beg. Yet that is what it took for patch 1.3, lots of fans pleading for a patch like dogs begging for a treat.
Secondly, don't try to teach your granny to suck eggs... I never said modders
shouldn't fix the game, I said with regards to modders fixing the game -
"yes Im sure they will (fix the game that is)
and I have lots of faith in them... but... why should they have to? Its the duty of ubisoft and the developers to make sure the game is fixed."
And I am not going to budge on that fact. SH3 was the same it took 4 patches to put it right, but at least the four patches came out to get it up to par. SH4 needs to be treated the same.
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Originally Posted by mookiemookie
You're missing a very important distinction here. The development team has stated on these very forums that they "wanted to implement this feature, they wanted to fix this issue, they wanted to put more work into X, etc, they'd like to fix this still-existing problem"
They cannot do any of that, as much as they want to, without the blessing of Ubisoft. They can't release another patch without corporate signing off on it.
Place the blame where it belongs.
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If I were to place the game where it belongs, I would place it with myself first and foremost for being silly enough to talk my brother into a buying a copy for us even though he said wait. At the time I had no job and was skint, but just getting well into SH3 so I thought, it would be cool to have SH4.
You say place the blame where it belongs... Well frankly I don't give a monkeys who is at fault, be it ubisoft or the developers or whether its six of one and half a dozen of the other... the end result is the same I (and others) am sat with a game that is not up to scratch, yet it is very playable at present have to admit.
I just want to be 100% clear on one thing, I respect and admire the efforts of the modders and what they do, without them, SH3 and 4 would be quite dire all things considered. But I don't think its fair that they are the ones the community leans on to get all the game issues fixed (immaterial of if they mind or not). That is my point. Myself and others paid for a product that is effectively, deffective in a lot of respects. There should be as many patches as it takes to get it fixed, in the long run it makes good business sense for them concerned if they show loyalty to their customers, stands to reasons their customers will show loyalty to them.