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Originally Posted by TteFAboB
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Originally Posted by Happy Times
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Originally Posted by TteFAboB
So if you refuse civil service you go to jail? Certainly you're not mentioning the exception for motives of conscience or religion?
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Yes, if you wont do either you get 197 days of prison. I dont see how some should get a free ride while others serve for the common good.
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Where else is it like this? The conscripted nations I knew included the exception, but they are kept in low profile, pretty much hidden actually, to prevent every smart ass from abusing of it since the state doesn't have any means to tell a fair claim from a false one, just like it is forced to recognize as a religion anything that proclaims itself as one.
This is a very clever way of closing the gap. Who could have a problem with civil service? Actually, what is this civil service? The internet tells me it's basically governamental slave labor.
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I think in Israel you get jailtime if you refuse to serve, AL will know better. Altough they have some religious groups that are exempted but have an option to volunteer. We have the Jehovas witnesses as such a group. Dont know why, its been so from the beginning, there has been talk to end this privilege. Other exempted group is the swedish speaking population of the Åland islands, its an autonomous demilitarised region of Finland. Have to stress that the swedish speaking minority in the mainland do serve, they even have their own unit in the Navy, the Nyland Brigade, it gives training in swedish for coastal jägers. The civil service members work in retirement homes, schools, goverment etc. They first get training in civil service centers but after they get assigned somewhere they can do their service from home. This is why the lenght of the service is 13 months, Amnesty International still sees this discriminatory. They also consider the total objectors in prison as political prisoners.