[9th_cow]

Originally Posted by donut

Do a search ,in the Mod Forum for lethal radius/Redwine posts,and you have got the SHIV fix.Over,& Under,&"out"

thanks
thats the one i meant. i do beleive his mod doesnt "dumb down" the game but actually makes it more realistic.
those things can take you out at crazy ranges in the default game.
dying is one thing, dying when i shouldnt, is another
now to see if it works with 1.3