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Originally Posted by P_Funk
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Originally Posted by waste gate
If it was unwise for the gov't to be in the care business then why is it wise now?
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Just because at one point a government system wasn't working properly doesn't mean that automatically governmetn programs don't work.
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2. A question; what is a legitimate reason not to have health insurance when programs such as medicaid and medicare available?
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People who can't afford it. There are infact poor people in the USA.
Theres also the fact that often private insurance companies don't deliver what they promise because they serve profit before consumer. I haven't heard anyone explain how that isn't true.
But the fun thing about this conversation is that you don't trust government and think that the private sector is more reliable. And I do trust government, or at least I do more than the private sector. And honestly if you consider the laws and culture around corporations in the US you see that it is a conflict of interest to get essential services run by private companies. It is enshrined in law that a corporation serves its shareholders first and that leads often to shady business practices. This is just my Pinko-Marxian distrust of the Free Market, or whatever it is thats masquerading as it.
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This is just my Pinko-Marxian distrust of the Free Market, or whatever it is thats masquerading as it.
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I appreciate your honesty there P-funk, but you certainly haven't masqueraded anything, to your credit. Since I suspect the only system you've personally known, mom and dad, is just that a marxist, populist system. The parents make the rules(laws), and provide for the health and welfair of the governed, their children. Since that is the only system you have known and you have survived in good health it is not suprising that you are in favor of such systems.
Corporations are made up of people. Those corporations, which you hold in such low regard, also have a responsibility to its employees, to stay in business, not just share holders, who by the way are also people. Not everyone can be a gov't employee, although that seems to be what you are advocating.
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Theres also the fact that often private insurance companies don't deliver what they promise because they serve profit before consumer. I haven't heard anyone explain how that isn't true.
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If that is the case those companies will not be writing policies for very long. The free market will not allow it. If you were to enter a retail establishment, lets say a restaraunt, and it served you rice instead of the potatoes you ordered and when you complained they said too bad for you, would you pay them or go back? No. Would you tell others about your experience? You bet you would and that resaraunt would not be in business long. So I can't see how an insurance company can often get away with that type of behavior.
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There are infact poor people in the USA.
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Medicaid is exactly the means by which 'poor' people may insure themselves. Should we force them to avail themselves to the program?
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Just because at one point a government system wasn't working properly doesn't mean that automatically governmetn programs don't work.
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What has change about gov't which makes this true? I'm open to an answer because at this point I don't know of any change.