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Originally Posted by waste gate
Or is health something each individual takes care of before they need a hand out?
Smoking, alcohol consumption, Big Macs, unprotected sex, illicate drug use, irresponsible driving habits, all contribute to ER and hospital admittances.
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Well, if you don't care for your body, there are obvious effects. But most people do keep in decent shape. (and wouldn't the country with the most market-driven health system be the healthiest, and not the fast-food addicts? I dont know).
For every Big Mac scoffer, there's leukemia. Basing the system on a marginal group won't lead to very good results. Universal health care is hardly a hand-out, you still pay for it. As Pfunk said, either great care for those who can afford it (and are more likely to be healthy), and nothing for those who can't - or decent care for everyone, with taxpayers/standard insurance taking the bill.
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The problem as I see it is that those asking for universal health care are the same folks who only think about health care after they do something that they knew was risky.
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I really don't see that happening. Also, who thinks about healthcare when they are healthy anyway?