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Originally Posted by Beery
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Originally Posted by LW_lcarp
Now what i dont get out of all the realism nuts out there is there is more then 1 person on these boats. That means there are more then 2 people on the gun when its firing. The have a thing called a bucket brigade (a long of people passing one bucket to the next person). So slowing down the deck gun cant really add to the realism that much if at all...
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Firstly, there is no 'bucket brigade' passing ammo on a WW2 submarine. Deck gun crews were limited by regulations that strictly denoted who was allowed to handle shells and by regulations limiting the number of people on deck so that a sub could prepare to dive as fast as possible. Sure, it seems quite reasonable to the average guy who doesn't think about such things very much that you could pass a 50lb weight around quite fast if you had 20 people on deck to do it, but you can't just go around crewing subs and assigning work with the mentality of a simple-minded horse. Even though they may weigh the same, a 4" shell is quite a bit more dangerous than a large sack of potatoes, and a surfaced submarine is always in mortal danger from air attack, so unless you have a death wish you don't let untrained men toss around ammunition willy-nilly and you don't risk 50 lives by placing so many men on the deck that it becomes impossible to submerge in time to evade an air attack - you just don't. |
I am sorry but you must think the ammo supply is located across the Pacific.
It is not.
The circle to the left of the ladder on the conning tower is the ammo scuttle.
That looks to be about 12 feet from the gun.
So the idea of 10,20,30,40 or 50 men passing ammo on deck to the gun is pretty much not going to happen.
Even in rough weather when you supposedly could not use the scuttle the gun is is still not far from the conn.
According to the Pampinito web site the ammo locker is located under the mess.
The scuttle goes thru the pressure hull into the mess. No need for a large bucket brigade inside the sub either.
The ammo ready locker provides shells instantly. By the time the ready locker is emptied the supply chain is set and ready to go.
So adding to the rate of fire time by deducting the number of shells in the ready locker does not appear to make any sense.
What also is not true is some preceived notion that you have to take alot of prep time to make the gun ready. Heck the 5 inch 25 submarine mounted gun does not even need a plug in the barrell.