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Originally Posted by Palidian
In short, if you don't like the guns in RFB don't use the mod. But don't claim RFB is unrealistic unless you can prove it.
I have proven it, however your do choose not to see the proof. What else can one do...
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You have posted a gun engagement from WW1 that is poorly documented and for which I had to flesh out details of the size of gun and other details. We still don't know if that engagement involved a torpedo, which would invalidate the data. Even so this data only showed that a 5000 ton ship could be sunk by 150 105mm shells (maybe with a torpedo) - and it was in WW1 and there was no crew on board to perform damage control. This proves nothing.
You've posted an example of an 8" shell as if this remotely compares to the 3", 4" and 5" shells we're talking about. This is not the evidence we need and one 8" shell sinking a destroyer is a fluke and not something that ought to be used as a basis for a simulation.
You have also posted technical data for a gun that doesn't take into account how the gun was served or what it was mounted on. This is not proof, as I've repeatedly shown to you as well as the tens of people that have posted such statistics in these forums since RUb first modified a Silent Hunter deck gun in 2005.
In short, you've proved nothing that has any bearing on SH4, which is a submarine COMBAT simulation - not a simulation of deck gun ROF speed tests.
As I've said before, RFB needs examples of gunnery from combat patrols where the start and end times for an engagement are recorded, where the number of shells fired is recorded and where at least 40 shells were fired. We can talk about other things, but RFB will not incorporate data that doesn't at least come close to those criteria unless it's very persuasive indeed. The stuff you've posted doesn't come close to meeting these criteria, nor is it persuasive in other ways. In fact the 8-20 shells per minute to which you keep referring has been completely discounted because the people who came up with those numbers never intended for them to be used as rates of fire that apply to combat.