i came to that conclusion on my own, not what everyone else "beats it up to be"
sh3 with the grey wolves mod was great, and felt like a polished game, stock sh4 does not IMO
sh4 will be just as good with time, but unfourtunatly the devs have left it up to modders to finish thier work again.
SH3 plus GWX with much better graphics is all i wanted! SH4 comes close
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