[The Avon Lady]

No time today. I'll just respond to your first point.

Originally Posted by Skybird

The EU officially came to different conclusions than you, many monthd ago, and in the latest report just weeks ago. Which certainly will not impress you - no surprise.

Tell me what impresses you about these Eurocrats on a high?

A short while ago, we had this report. Quote:

"Even if proof, in the classical meaning of the term, is not as yet available, a number of coherent and converging elements indicate that such secret detention centers did indeed exist in Europe," Marty wrote.

Or, to put it more succinctly, "give us enough time and we’ll come up with something."

Also this report. Notice the smooth tongue talk:

The most serious charges are levelled at Poland and Romania, where Mr Marty says there is enough evidence to support suspicions that CIA secret prisons were established.

Did you catch the doublespeak? Let's highlight it, just in case you missed it:

Mr Marty says there is enough evidence to support suspicions

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

What he's saying and what you're swallowing is "we have our suspicions, and we offer as evidence of our suspicion and, of course, our suspicions are the cat's meow!"

But in all honesty, I wouldn't be surprised that such facilities could have existed. But so what?

I know! I have a suggestion that will make everybody happy! The CIA will go back to sticking the bad guys with poison umbrella tips or giving them exploding cigars.

That's it for now.