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Originally Posted by bradclark1
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Originally Posted by Rose
It was the beginning of the end for Nazi Germany on the Western front. 
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Kursk was the turning point for the Russo/German front. Stalingrad was a just a loss of an army. Big just but.......
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But the Russians were already on the offensive before Kursk, as a direct result of Stalingrad. Kursk just solidified the victory, and turned the push into a flood. And then there was Bagration, which REALLY got the ball rolling.
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Originally Posted by P Funk
Wasn't El Alamein before Stalingrad though? Though they call that the first major defeat for Germany, and I would still say that Stalingrad was the turning point.
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I actually think they both hold equal rank as "turning points." If either one hadn't occured, then the Allied effort might have failed. If North Africa/Italy wasn't taken, then the Russians would have been without support, and if Stalingrad hadn't been won, then any victory in North Africa would have been a moot point. I may be wrong though.