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Old 05-25-07, 12:00 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by Frau_Phillips
It sucks arse, but thats what freedom of speech is. If we start allowing the government to draw a line wherever it wants to, we'll be having liberals censoring conservatives, and vice versa.

I forget which case, but remember the Nazis who wanted to march through a predominately Jewish town? They were allowed, because denying them their rights would mean that, to be fair, we should be denied rallies for peace, or things like that.

C'est la vie!
C'est ne pas la vie en Allemagne:

The German constitution prohibits acts and deeds hostile towards the constitutional order and the constitution itself (Article 2,1):

Everyone has the right to the free development of his personality insofar as he does not violate the rights of others or offend against the constitutional order or the moral code.



Loyalty to the constitution is again stressed in Article 5,3:

Art and science, research and teaching are free. Freedom of teaching does not absolve from loyalty to the constitution.



It also explicitly grants every German the right to resist (even by the use of force) to everybody trying to put these in danger, or tries to overcome them (Article 20,4):

All Germans shall have the right to resist any person seeking to abolish this constitutional order, should no other remedy be possible.



And finally, often overseen or willingly ignored, article 18 rules that everybody who abuses one of the listed guaranteed freedoms to offend agaimnst the constitutional order, shall loose these rights and freedoms:

Whoever abuses freedom of opinion, in particular freedom of the press (Article 5, paragraph 1) freedom of teaching (Article 5, paragraph 3), freedom of assembly (Article 8), freedom of association (Article 9), the secrecy of mail posts and telecommunications (Article 10), property (Article 14), or the right of asylum (Article 16, paragraph 2) in order to attack the free democratic basic order, forfeits these basic rights. The forfeiture and its extent are pronounced by the Federal Constitutional Court.
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