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Originally Posted by ReM
What has become of this place?
A couple of years ago when I 'discovered' Subsim this was a nice cozy place where you were welcomed and where people treated each other with respect.
Whenever there was a subject you wanted to discuss, helpfulness from other community members is the first word that pops up.
There were some rippels now and then, but these were exceptions.....SNIP......Some people that are jealous af the deserved credit they get now start flaming that all their work was stolen...
Maybe this place shouLd get back to the basics of a community, a civilised place where respect and helpfulness are the norm.....
It was like that before, but I fear those days are gone forever!
Salute JCWolf and thanks for all you contributions!
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@ REM
I agree with you entirely and I'm sorry for sniping your post in my quote, just wanted to keep the size down.
I think alot of this stems from the infux of many new members to Subsim which is entirely attributed to SH4. It's to be expected, Sub Sims have been made more 'mainstream' with thier 'hollywood' graphics & I feel that many may have come from other game forums where the norm is completely different to what we have come to expect from Subsim. This contributes to the problem but it certainly is not the only reason we are seeing this type of behaviour.
The SH3 side of Subsim is considerably more friendy and welcoming (IMHO) than the SH4 side but I think the reason we are noticing more attacking or rude posts is due to the drop in traffic. I'm not saying that SH3 has become less attractive or popular but we must admit that there are less new developments/threads being created and as such, attacks/gripes & rudeness is becoming more apparent. Not too long ago, if you took a weekend away from the SH3 Mods Forum, you had to goto page 3 or 4 before you could catch up where you left off.
This, in part, is why many of us find ourselves on the defensive alot of the time. Speaking for what I know, GWX is a HUGE target, mainly due to it's popularity, which in turn means most of the posts you find are GWX related in some way & many people feel that GWX has called 'Monopoly' on the SH3 boards because of this. Now, this can't be blamed on the devs, however they are the easiest targets & as such the flak will come thier way. It doesn't matter, they have broad shoulders after the last couple of years.
There is no-one here, on Subsim, that will deny anyone their voice or opinion but what is totally unacceptable is the manner in which those opinions are put forward. There is no reasonable excuse for being anything other than respectful & polite to any other member, especially when you are wanting to discuss issues with their hard work. We must ALL remember, this is written word and as such no inflection/tone of voice is portrayed in our responses. Before posting, re-read what you have written.
Finally, I feel that Subsim will return to the place we all love to be but in the meantime we must endure the gripes and slander but rest assured, they will not go unanswered.
Forecast - More of the same, with some bright patches. Looking to the future, it's
all the way.
@ JcWolf - I blame you for all this 'thinking' I'm having to do.
:rotfl:See you on the Den.
