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Originally Posted by nattydread
I put 5 fish into a huge ocean liner. 3 starboard 2 port running at 15-20ft. Thge 5th had her on fire but she kept steaming at the same speed. My last two torps pre-detonated even though atleast one was set for contact fuses...go figure.
I aborted the attack to keep from going into shallow water and a minefield. The end-around at mid-day right off the coast would have been a bit iffy too!
Either way 12 torps used up with no kill (2-3 sure misses, the other pre-dets I think...I dont have the camera enabled).
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As someone (Beery or Ducimus?) pointed out elsewhere, duds are modelled somewhat squirrelly in this game. I've noticed myself I only get the 'torpedo was a dud message' when I'm below periscope depth and my hydrophones are working. Also, graphically, duds often use the same sound and graphics as real hits.
Data in the torpedoes_sim file seems to suggest that some particular types of duds are triggered 1.5m from the target, which would logically look to the skipper as a solid hit. It's possible that this is leading many people to believe that many marus are soaking up far more hits than is possible.
I'm not saying the damage model is perfect by any means. I hear players boasting of sinking Yamato with 4 torps, or CAs and CVs with single hits, which would really stick in my craw in career mode.
Edit: I found Beery's post. it's a ways down, so here's his observation:
One thing to be aware of is that the game models some duds in a rather weird way: some torpedoes will impact a ship and they'll appear to explode, but they have no effect on the enemy ship at all. You can only see the non-effect of these torpedoes if you have the full 3D damage graphics checked in the graphics options - they leave no hole in the ship's hull.
Because of the above many players are complaining of torpedoes that explode but do no damage. I think these were intended to be 'contact duds' but the devs forgot to remove the explosion graphics and the sound.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...=113031&page=4