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Originally Posted by XabbaRus
Actually I disagree with Skybird when he says they are maximum risk maneauvers. If you look at any disply team the patterns they make are generally large radius low G turns, they don't pull that much compared to combat flying 5G maybe tops. The Red Arrows have the synchro pair and they do some higher G stuff but it is all preplanned. I think some of the solo displays by mil jets with bog standard military pilots in them more extreme. Look at the Typhoon being shown off or the Sukhoi. Much closer to on the edge maneauvers. Sounds to me like this was bad luck, hit something at the end of teh display while doing a turn.
As for running off the road while trying to watch them,. Driver Ed 101, ignore airplanes and keep your eys on the road.
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there are patterns that include two formations heading each other and passing through each other at accumulated speeds of over 500 kn (both planes doing let's say
minimum 250 kn each to maintain precise steering control). at such a speed both formation pass through each other, at 90° or 180° angles, and then wingtips and main bodies just meters away from each other.
Preplanned: I am sure pilots of cashed planes in the past also had preplanned manouveurs on their mind. but man is not 100% perfect, and doing such things reduces the error margin to extremely low values - or is unforgiving to any mistake at all, even a smallest deviation. that's why many good pilots got killed in the past, even under less stressing situation.
Nobody would recommend to zig-zag a sub at 50ft with 38 kn in a harbour area, fog and with heavy taffic everywhere and oil tankers in close vicinity. Nobody recommends to practice with tanks in urban area and hot ammunition, always precisely aiming beside the civilians. But for fighterplanes even more dangerous stunts are considered to be acceptable. This contradiction I do not get.
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Originally Posted by CCIP
just poking my usual pointed sticks
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Play pool...!
Subman,
you again distort what I say as best as you can. Life includes risk, we all know that. What I condemn is to provoke ridiculously high risks for the actors as well as the audience and that are not needed at all. And my concerns are about the audience. If a pilot decides to try to challenge the devil, let him go, but let him try it in a way where he does not pose a risk to others. Else it would not make sense to prohibit driving on the wrong side of the autobahn, too.
Mike,
the page I linked - I googled only. I wanted to give some photo images on what ammount of distruction the impact did on the ground. Several hundred squaremeters on the ground turned into a killing ground. I doubt that the impact of a MK-84 has a similiar effect on the surface. The fire carpet crashed right into the visitor's area, at high speed.
Watch this video and then anybody tell me:
is such nonsens really needed...??? I say this disaster was only this:
provoked.