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CaptainHaplo · 04-21-07, 09:09 AM

Its a plausible theory - but the issue of "trim" tank damage - if implemented as your suggesting - means they really didnt think it through. IRL - trim tanks are small compared to your MBT's - they'r useful for SMALL adjusments. If one was damaged/holed - a diving officer would simply compensate as much as possible with the appropriate fore or aft MBT - letting it be vented for a slightly shorter time.

If they did it the way your thinking - and I am not saying your wrong - then they made the trim tank important enough to sink you regardless of what the MBT state is. Unless - is this thing modelling MAIN BALLAST TANK Damage????

That would explain alot - since "HULL" damage is what we think of when we consider interior flooding or crush depth. But - as I noted in the Crash Speed thread - I think we should be looking at each "room" bulkhead as the "room" itself - as the bulkhead damage is what causes leaks - not true HULL damage.

We MAY be on to something here - but then if so - and I am not savvy enough to know - how is the "hull" damage location saved?

You got me thinking your right - suppose they are looking at hull damage not only lessening your overall crush depth, but also bouyancy. If so - then the .5 figure would be an indicater that your sub has a safety bouyancy factor (which in rl they do). Hull damage would decrease that - so once you get hull damage at 50% - then your doomed to sink no matter what - barring a blowing of all tanks. Very minor damage may have no effect on your ability to remain neutrally bouyant - but damage accumulated would reflect cracks/leaks in the trim and/or MBT tanks until they get to the .5 mark - where your get a death spiral....

If so - we may have been looking at a really unexplained "feature" that has been drastically misunderstood. However - I would still want to mod it to lessen its effects. Has anyone run across any variables that could be a bouyancy factor - if so - increasing this may allow the death spiral to be changed.

Thoughts?
Good Hunting
Captain Haplo.

04-21-07, 09:09 AM	#3
CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,405 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	Have we been looking at this wrong??? Its a plausible theory - but the issue of "trim" tank damage - if implemented as your suggesting - means they really didnt think it through. IRL - trim tanks are small compared to your MBT's - they'r useful for SMALL adjusments. If one was damaged/holed - a diving officer would simply compensate as much as possible with the appropriate fore or aft MBT - letting it be vented for a slightly shorter time. If they did it the way your thinking - and I am not saying your wrong - then they made the trim tank important enough to sink you regardless of what the MBT state is. Unless - is this thing modelling MAIN BALLAST TANK Damage???? That would explain alot - since "HULL" damage is what we think of when we consider interior flooding or crush depth. But - as I noted in the Crash Speed thread - I think we should be looking at each "room" bulkhead as the "room" itself - as the bulkhead damage is what causes leaks - not true HULL damage. We MAY be on to something here - but then if so - and I am not savvy enough to know - how is the "hull" damage location saved? You got me thinking your right - suppose they are looking at hull damage not only lessening your overall crush depth, but also bouyancy. If so - then the .5 figure would be an indicater that your sub has a safety bouyancy factor (which in rl they do). Hull damage would decrease that - so once you get hull damage at 50% - then your doomed to sink no matter what - barring a blowing of all tanks. Very minor damage may have no effect on your ability to remain neutrally bouyant - but damage accumulated would reflect cracks/leaks in the trim and/or MBT tanks until they get to the .5 mark - where your get a death spiral.... If so - we may have been looking at a really unexplained "feature" that has been drastically misunderstood. However - I would still want to mod it to lessen its effects. Has anyone run across any variables that could be a bouyancy factor - if so - increasing this may allow the death spiral to be changed. Thoughts? Good Hunting Captain Haplo.