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Originally Posted by bradclark1
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Originally Posted by micky1up
really ive severd nearly 20 years in the royal navy they were paraded by the MOD in front of the cameras in the PR battle with iran and their small craft were armed only with machine guns the iranian had heavey caliber weapons the fight would have lasted 30 seconds with the royal navy crew dead WE are not at war with iran so fighting would have created a massive incident if not a war the crew's rules of engagemnet wouldnt allow for this incident because it was totally unexpected so the OIC (officer in charge) did exactly the right thing he prevented a major incident which may have led to war . you clearly have no concept of rules of engagement and the mandate that the royal navy is thier under , so in the end war was avoided the peraonnel are back unharmed , your way would have culminated in the deaths of many people
and PS the navies of the world are not the same at all we all have different policy's strategy's and backgrounds ive no doubt the US navy would have went in gung ho and lost its men as it has on so many occasions
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It's no argument about the boarding party. I agree with you. I never argued that point. My question is what was the ship doing? What range is it's radar. My disappointment is in the actions of those sailors after capture. In fact it's the actions of the officer and senior enlisted sailor or marine, the rest just followed their leaders. You think this helped his career I think it put the brakes on it.
What were the ROE and what mandate is the navy under? I don't think any of it covers what they were doing on TV, or being stripped of their uniforms, or playing happy kissy with that countries leader on TV.
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in a ideal world you have a point in the royal navy with the MOD pulling the strings and the PR campaign with iran they will do anything to get one over i wouldnt be surprised if the guy dosent make it to admiral , no matter what size of vessel they had no ROE to engague the irainians no shots were fired no hostile intent untill the sailors where kidnapped and tell me with 4 gunboats in close proximity to the navy ribs how the hell is anyomne going to make sure our own side didnt get hit