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Old 04-07-07, 12:53 PM   #14
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Imaginations, assumptions, hear-say - all that does not and cannot replace the need of evidence and prooving the guilt of the accused - within reasonable time-frames. Not years and years.
Yes, I am making some assumptions as you have. It's just that my assumptions are somewhat different that yours. People have been released without spending years and some have not. I have much more faith in what my government does to its prisoners than what most other governments would do, though I'm sure you would disagree.

You just have given up the traditional basis of legal system in a democratic environment. You are accepting to run justice by hear-say and imagination - instead of evidence, checks and balances. However you call it - it has nothing to do with a democratic understanding of a "state", but a tyranny. believing you can a lot. What you actually can gain knowledge about - this is what decides democracy. A president ruling that certain checks and balances are no longer conducted, and shall be unavailable to the people, the public, the outside - such a president has striking similiarities with Big Brother, and should make you worry about your country.

Such thinking has not much to do anymore with the America of the past that came to help to defeat the Nazis. Maybe exactly the opposite.

Democracy is not about blind belief, or blind trust. It is about this: checks and balances, the majority deciding the general course, justice oin the basis of what is to be proven, not on the basis of trusting hear-say of lobbies. What you just said is calling for the strong Führer whom you believe in. And that is alarming an attitude.

In the past, I sometimes was rethoricallyy asked how it could have happened that Germans fell for their Führer, and did not perceive the truth and acted while their still was time. Look at what Bush is doing to your country, then you know the answer.
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