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Originally Posted by GlobalExplorer
Thats absolute bull**** man. Hitler was elected by the people, too, and if a government cares only about their own people its a fascist regime.
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Holy ****, how about democracy 101 for you, pal?
A government who cares about its own people is fascist? Holy ****, where do you come from? I see the commie media has done good work on you.
You know, you are right in that point however that we voted for Hitler. Hitler was freely elected, thank you, cause usually apologists keep coming up with "Aber es war der Reichtagsbrand" or similar bull.
All this tells us however is not that democracy is a bad thing, or how you totally confusedly stated, that democracy means fascism, but that in fact people can err, and have to live with the consequences of their choices (you learn that one in Kindergarten, actually).
Living with the consequences in our case meant that when people made the choice to vote for Hitler and his thugs, who clearly stated their goals prior to election, including the abolishment of democracy in the Republik, and the "Ausrottung der jüdischen Rasse in Europa", they would also have to deal with the consequences of their democratic decision, which meant the firebombing of Dresden for example (you know, the one people now tend to whine about in their crusade of "reviewing" our history.)
So, what you are basicly saying is that democracy might be a bad thing because WE chose to elect a party which promised to ABOLISH democracy and exterminate the Jews. Do you even know how to spell L-O-G-I-C? -
Anyway, what you found there is not so much a problem with democracy as it is a problem of GERMAN HISTORY. Not America's Democracy is bad because we ****ed up ours', not America's wars are bad because we raped Eastern Europe, and not we do have the right to lecture Israel today born on the fact that we gassed 6 Million of them some 60 years ago and thereby are somehow "in the know" of humanitarian issues (what sick logic is that anyway??), and I tell you, none of our history is going to become somehow better magically by badmouthing the US or Israel today. It doesn't work like that.
BTW, that we didn't learn A DAMN THING from our history I know when I listen to people like you: You, as about 98% of the rest in Germany, worship the UN as some kind of higher being (because they are mostly against the US and Israel, countries we do not like - oh wait, JUST THE GOVERNMENTS!!! We love the people, really. lol). But I ask you, WHAT ARE THE UN? You didn't vote for the President there, and you have about 70% dictatorships sitting at that bargaining table. So, on the one hand you admit that we voted for a dictator in the 30s and that this might have been a mistake, but at the same time you and most of your ilk worship the UN, which is made up of 70% dictatorships? Even ONE dictatorship would be one too many. But you got no problem with that. Right. You learned a lot.
- BTW, sorry Neal, but the show is already on, and neither you nor me can stop it. Maybe in this forum - but that's about it.