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Old 03-30-07, 10:06 AM   #75
castorp345
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Originally Posted by Beery
The thing is, I'm not at all sure if making the thermal layer effect less effective is the way to go. My memory is a bit fuzzy so I might be mistaken, but during the time when I was working on SH3 I seem to recall reading somewhere that in WWII the vast majority of subs that were sunk were attacked at or near the surface. Subs that got deep enough before their attackers got close enough to launch depth charges usually evaded detection and often survived even prolonged depth charge attacks because sensors simply had little chance of detecting deep subs. If subs that got deep were caught it was usually because the pursuing vessels were hunter-killers that could stick around until the sub had to resurface.

If the above is the case it argues for a strong thermal layer effect to counterbalance what may well be overmodelled sensors in SH4's ships (if they're anything like those of SH3).

Perhaps this would be a good subject for a modmaker discussion session. I think we need to figure out how effective SH4's sensor models really are. I'd hate to be in a situation we found commonplace in SH3 - to be caught by a ship's sensors and unable to escape no matter what evasive techniques we used.
i agree this would make for a good discussion session.

with the numbers i figured there i was trying to get at a theoretical value for what the actual attenuation effect would be, but of course you're correct that historical circumstance might very well indicate otherwise (and that my figuring is off the mark)...

i'm really not interested in using the layer as a 'fix' for asw behavior though, but rather would like to try and model the 'actual' effect it'd have on the in-game sensor mechanics.

the stock value's reduction to 20%/33% of above-the-layer values seems extreme (which prompted my trying to calculate 'accurate' values in the first place), but perhaps the refraction effect really is that pronounced?
:hmm:

if any dw gurus are hanging about perhaps they might shed some light on the subject?

i think i'll go ahead and post in the dw forum and see if some of those sonalyst chaps might be able to assist in determing correct values for the attenuation effect...

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