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Old 03-28-07, 01:21 AM   #9
Tchocky
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Originally Posted by ASWnut101
In essence, that means that the people have absolute control over thier government. Everything the government does is from what the people want.
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...we can abolish an abusive form of government at any time if our personal security, liberty, and freedom rights were neglected in any form. Throughout the years (and I'm talking over the past 15 or so), our government has insated laws and regulations that restrict our freedoms
The government is perfectly right to restrict your freedoms, examples including your freedom to drink and drive, your freedom to steal, and many others. What freedoms are restricted, and how, is where politics and government happen.
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... has very recently stopped listening to the voters (you and me, fellow Americans) in an attempt to expose a subjected theory that the 43rd president (GWB) had illegally fired members of the supreme court, which was never the voter's intentions or of their knowledge.
Who's being fired from the Supreme Court? This is news to me. If you mean the current mess involving the fired US attorneys, get your facts right.
What does the "voters intentions or knowledge" mean in this context? From past experience, voter knowledge counts for f*ck-all, as fatty pointed out.
The ordinary voter is not nearly knowledgeable enough about big issues to make informed decisions. The United States is a republic before a democracy; you don't make the decisions, you decide who makes them for you.
Do you know enough about macroeconomics to make informed decisions on the national budget? I sure don't. Let's leave it to someone who does. What about stem cell research? Running the Heath Service? Armed forces? The same thing goes for the Supreme Court. The voters can show their preference in selecting the man who selects, the President. After that, after the vote, they're just lobbyists.
The intentions of the voters don't matter either, one of the wonderful things about democracy is that only the vote counts, not the reasons for it.

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We have a supreme-court that has pushed unconstatutional laws that directly affect the lives of the voters (again, you and me). We have had our government let an overpower (the United Nations) who attempts to push many unconstatutional laws, such as the Kyoto Protocol, which the people of the United States have absolutaly no control over. We have had lawyers who pushed laws and amendments that favor one group of people and disregard the rest.
Lawyers are supposed to opush for the best interests of their clients, it's the essence of an adversarial justice system. Lobbyists are also obliged to do all they can for their bankrollers. Sadly, most policy-makers are too susceptible to intensive lobbying, for less than noble reasons.

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As such, things THIS article show that senators and congressmen/women have overstepped their voter's wishes and opinions to pursue a theory pushed into the legal system by a congress that is not even half a year old.
What do mean with these wishes/opinions? What do they count for? One man, one vote. Everything after that is undue influence. I doubt the voters would prefer to see baseless politically-motivated dismissals, and lies about such dismissals, to a hard-working group of attorneys doing their job. Now, not all of that previous sentence has been proven, but whats the harm in questioning?
If wrongdoing is suspected to have been committed in law enforcement, isnt it the duty of the Congress to investigate it, no matter how old the current congress is?
If the voters find their wishes/opinions not in line with the goings-on in Washington, then rejoice, because reoresentative democracy is working.
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Recently, as I have shown, the Senators and Congress have gone on a political joy ride. Let me ask you this: Have any of you ever gone to a voting station to vote on these?
Again, you don't vote on the issues, you vote on who votes on the issues. Thats the difference between democracy and representative democracy. The United States is not a pure democracy, it's a constitutional republic.

Political joy-ride? They're politicians! Thats not a loaded word here, it's their job description. Elected by the people to assist running the country in the best way they see fit. That's the theory
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