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Originally Posted by ComradeP

Yes, I can agree that the majority of the later posts in the thread, including my own, can be described by "Geeze" as they were mostly off topic.

This forum has a lot of settled members battling it out with pros. and cons. and it is of course their right to do so, but except for giving criticism on the initial release what can we criticise about the lasting potential of SH IV currently? There's not much that could not be modded with SH III and SH IV seems to be using a very similar file system, judging by what the modding crew is posting on the mod forums.

Ubisoft is fixing the FSAA and some other hard coded issues apparantly and the SH IV and Subsim community is diving in on the host of other issues. I'd say that within months the SH IV experience will be a few steps closer to its full potential and that the experience will gradually improve.

There's one thing to keep in mind: bi'tching usually doesn't actually solve anything, hence why Neal was so wise to ask us to state any criticism politely and to try and present positive criticism. Neal even managed to establish contact with the developers so we could voice our opinions, but we (yes, we) ruined that chance.

Perhaps we should all have a glass of our favourite beverage and lean back just a little: although the majority of the criticism is perfectly justified, it is probably hitting Ubisoft Romania harder than it should. It's not them that cut their own time and money, so we owe them a break. Heck, we wouldn't be complaining or enjoying SH IV at all had they not done anything.

As such, there are two likely paths we can take as a community: we can support Ubisoft Romania with positive criticism (that means politely addressing the problems you encounter, so no "ZOMG this is teh suckzorz" threads), cut the fanboy and counter-fanboy threads down like weed on a flower garden and support the modding community (the exact same behaviour a portion of the community is showing now is the reason there'll be no SH IV Commander by the author of SH III Commander, a loss to the community that we should not repeat).

Ubisoft itself has more or less admitted that there were problems with the initial release, and the subject has been torpedoed roughly once per hour in the last few days. Let's live with what we have and can have in the near future, instead of living in the past of the less than stellar release.

OR

We can continue our endless ramblings which probably don't contribute all that much to both the community as well as the future developments of the game.

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If all of this sounds ridiculous: perhaps it should sound ridiculous. In my opinion, even as a new member, we need to take a break and enjoy a weekend without huge amounts of bi'tching.

So: have a nice weekend, captains.

shït mate , you a lawyer

just say RICK ROCKS and go to the fridge to get a beer