SUBSIM Radio Room Forums - View Single Post - Note to Buyers of SH4 ----> SH4 The Beautiful Letdown ????

GoldenRivet · 03-23-07, 01:13 PM

I think the graphics are quite a step up from SH3, character modeling is awesome, the sub looks great, the water looks great, they captured the interior pretty well...

all that being said

the graphics can appear grainy as if you are viewing an old film... similar to the grainy look of the opening SH3 movie.

You are right in pretty much every respect

all of the sounds or... almost all of the sounds... are borrowed from stock SH3!!!

the background graphic to every one of the pages to the manual fro SH4 was even borrowed from SH3 - nothing new there either. the manual has several typos and errors that are not consistant with game play. My manual says that u can access the american version of the UZO by clicking on it or pushing the U key on the key board - of course nothing on the sub is interactive at all.

This would be the perfect sub sim if they would have included better sounds, and modeled several compartments of the sub IF NOT ALL of the compartments of the sub. now you only have access to the command room and the conning tower but thats it.

the learning curve for SH3 to SH4 is pretty easy in some areas and horrible in others.

for example all of the SH4 key commands are the same as SH3... BUT all of the on screen interfaces are different.

Ubi has all but eliminated the need for the player to manage the crew, and damage control. it all seems automated to me and im not even sure how to use it as there is no real explaination.

there is no verbal warning that you are approaching crush depth... your just suddenly dead or taking damage and you wouldnt know it unless you were in the command room view!!! no verbal warning "we are closing to critical depth sir" - no color coded band on the depth guage, not even any reliable technical data on the subs other than lenght height width tonnage and speed and a picture of it. LAME

on a scale of 1 to 10 i give sh4 a....

GRAPHICS.....8 (do away with the grainy look and we will talk higher nubers here)

GAME PLAY.....6 (poor interface)

CUSTOM SETTINGS..... 5 (you either play in historical accuracy or arcade easy)

total is about a 7

SH3 wins the day - the modders have their work cut out for them as far as SH4 goes. good luck.
i think the attitude from a lot of these game producers like ubi is "well lets turn out a mediocre game that we know will sell... the mod community will make it a great game"

03-23-07, 01:13 PM	#8
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	I think the graphics are quite a step up from SH3, character modeling is awesome, the sub looks great, the water looks great, they captured the interior pretty well... all that being said the graphics can appear grainy as if you are viewing an old film... similar to the grainy look of the opening SH3 movie. You are right in pretty much every respect all of the sounds or... almost all of the sounds... are borrowed from stock SH3!!! the background graphic to every one of the pages to the manual fro SH4 was even borrowed from SH3 - nothing new there either. the manual has several typos and errors that are not consistant with game play. My manual says that u can access the american version of the UZO by clicking on it or pushing the U key on the key board - of course nothing on the sub is interactive at all. This would be the perfect sub sim if they would have included better sounds, and modeled several compartments of the sub IF NOT ALL of the compartments of the sub. now you only have access to the command room and the conning tower but thats it. the learning curve for SH3 to SH4 is pretty easy in some areas and horrible in others. for example all of the SH4 key commands are the same as SH3... BUT all of the on screen interfaces are different. Ubi has all but eliminated the need for the player to manage the crew, and damage control. it all seems automated to me and im not even sure how to use it as there is no real explaination. there is no verbal warning that you are approaching crush depth... your just suddenly dead or taking damage and you wouldnt know it unless you were in the command room view!!! no verbal warning "we are closing to critical depth sir" - no color coded band on the depth guage, not even any reliable technical data on the subs other than lenght height width tonnage and speed and a picture of it. LAME on a scale of 1 to 10 i give sh4 a.... GRAPHICS.....8 (do away with the grainy look and we will talk higher nubers here) GAME PLAY.....6 (poor interface) CUSTOM SETTINGS..... 5 (you either play in historical accuracy or arcade easy) total is about a 7 SH3 wins the day - the modders have their work cut out for them as far as SH4 goes. good luck. i think the attitude from a lot of these game producers like ubi is "well lets turn out a mediocre game that we know will sell... the mod community will make it a great game"