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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk
I watch this program. Burgulary takes place when no one is home. Dog around, yes. Dog can bark but dog can not dial a phone. Problem number one handled. Therefore, dog can bark all day and if said owner is not home who really cares? No one. If at night when dog can bark alerting the owner, much different story. Case and point, I have a friend in Detroit. Early morning, her two dogs start acting funny. Whining and looking to leave the bedroom. Owner lets them out of bedroom. Dogs go to the kitchen where a man has entered the house. Man runs from dog and woman. Would the man have ran if woman not hom?e. Probably not because the dogs can not dial 911. Furthermore, the program is staged and acted. There is no real fear of cops showing up.
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Point taken - dogs might help in alerting the owner to an intruder. As far as being staged an acted - I don't agree. These dogs don't know the difference and these guys enter the house and the dogs do nothing.
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Just because you never heard of someone not being prosecuted for using a gun in this situation does not mean it has not happened. Case and point. Gentlemen in NY confronts an intruder in his house. He hits him in the head with a bat. The intruder dies on his floor. The cops show up. They tell this gentlemen to put the bat away. The cops then pull the body outside the house on the front porch. Police report reads intruder flees, trips on doorstep hitting his head on the stoop. Intruder dies as a result. The cops did not want home owner under any suspicion at all. How do I know this? This man was my college roommates father.
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Interesting story - NY is always a special case and this is just one more story from there that doesn't surprise me. I do not think they are a stand your ground state which is why. If I remember correctly, I am not even sure guns are even legal in NY at all, so the bat may be a case of excessive force in a state that does not permit you to defend yourself. Sorry to hear this happened to someone you know.
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Excessive force is questioned if the victim is to believe to have used it. Sure percieved danger is one thing but by your thinking if I percieve a threat from someone walking by my house, I can pull out my gun and start firing? Not that I'm aware of. It is a self defense issue if I'm not mistaken.
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Yes - Everything is up to a prosecutor, but we should say that being convicted on said charges are very rare - and probably deserved if ever someone was convicted. I have yet to see a case myself like this though.