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Originally Posted by Morts
maybe they are pinging you with sonar ? maybe thats why they detect you
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No they can't ping me when I'm at 160m in 1940, asdic doesnt go that deep in grey wolves till later in the war.
In the book I mentioned it's mid 1943 fighting the japanese and they still had a pretty decent number of escorts who definitely had radar units on some of the ships. O'Kane's first or second convoy he encountered on their first patrol he attacked at night, was in front of the ships but saw a destroyer heading right at them. That's when they went to 500ft listening to the merchants in the convoy which changed course 30' so they accelerated to 10knots stating their props won't cavitate at that depth even at 10knot speed and as mentioned in an earlier post they were under the thermal layer. So they accelerated over and came back up to the surface sinking one of the merchants with 4 torps and quickly left the area on the surface getting setup for another run on the other merchant or two the escorts were protecting.
I'm in SH3, year 1940, running at 2 knots, silent running engaged submerged to 160m and there will be two escorts running over me dropping charges occasionally and they're very accurate! I'll be twisting and turning, changing direction but they'll stay on top of me for a good 2 hours before leaving. Also I dont submerge after they've spotted me on the surface, I'm going after a convoy at periscope depth undetected, hit a ship or two with torps, still running slow and silent engaged, tell them to go down to 160m and the escorts find me! This is even using electric torps that are wakeless! Day or night doesnt matter. Just wondering why they're so good?
In this time period I usually do surfaced attacks and the escorts come right after me once I fire electric torps but I can usually escape running at flank speed up there. I'm just comparing the game to how it really was wondering about the differences.
I know I'm comparing the allies to the japanese who werent the greatest at ASW but in the book it was 1943, the Japanese had radar units, sonar equipment, surely in a better position to detect submarines than the allies in 1940!