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Old 03-08-07, 02:29 PM   #10
JU_88
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You know there was one instance during WW2, where a British V class sub sunk a German IXD2 Uboat with a spread of torpedos while both vessels were submerged - the only instance of this ever happening in all of naval history.
I hate to arrest you, mate, but the uboat that was sunk was an ViiC, and it happend outside of Norway...
The V-class was british, but the crew was Norwegian.

From uboat.net:

U-974


Type

VIIC

Laid down 26 Jun, 1942 Blohm & Voss, Hamburg Commissioned 22 Apr, 1943 Oblt. Joachim ZaubitzerCommanders 22 Apr, 1943 - 8 Nov, 1943 Joachim Zaubitzer9 Nov, 1943 - 19 Apr, 1944 Heinz Wolff Career 1 patrol 22 Apr, 1943 - 31 Oct, 1943 5. Flottille (training)
1 Nov, 1943 - 19 Apr, 1944 7. Flottille (front boat)
Successes No ships sunk or damagedFate Sunk 19 April, 1944 in the North Sea by Stavanger, Norway, in position 59.08N, 05.23E, by torpedoes from Norwegian submarine HNoMS Ula. 42 dead and 8 survivors.
The loss of U-974
The Norwegian submarine Ula fired a spread of 4 torpedoes towards U-974 at the range of about 1200 meters. One of those hit the boat just aft of the conning tower causing a major explosion which shook the Ula which crash dived and during that dive they could hear the U-974 break in two as it sank.
The boat was discovered in 1996 by a ROV at about 190m depth (ca. 580 feet). She is broken in two parts, one of about 15 meters and the second of around 40 meters in length. The wreck lies about 1000m south east of Loten on the western Bokanfjorden, near Stavanger, Norway.




From http://www.skovheim.org/located/rogaland/u974/u974.htm

The German submarine U 974 was torpedoed on 19. April 1944 by the Norwegian Submarine Ula when she was heading out from Bergen city, and the submarine broke in two pieces when she were hit by the torpedoes. The submarine sunk with forty two men in the deep, and only eight men of the crew survived this sinking. The German submarine had since she was laid down in Hamburg in 1942 been on only one patrol, thou without any sinking or sucesses. The sinking of U 974 was noted in the extremely effective German statistics and forgotten until 1996. The wreck was then discovered by the Norwegian navy vessel KNM Tyr with help from a ROV, which located the wreck at about 190m depth outside Stavanger city. The wreck lies approximately about one thousand meters south east of Loten in the western Bokanfjorden, near Stavanger city...
I see no mention that both or infact either submarine was submerged during this engagement. As there were eight survivors from the U-boat then it would indicate to me that the U-boat was struck departing its base while still on the surface.


Nope I was right all along, a V-class sunk an IXD2 in 45- saw a documentry on it a few weeks back so tttthhhhhppppppthhh!!!! at both you unbelievers.
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