melnibonian, you are definately somebody who gets me.
Yeah Germany lost, but they took the brunt of the harshness of the versailles treaty, because France wanted Germany punished harsh as they suffered quite badly at the hands of the German forces.
While Germany was not beat as in beat beyond all shadow of doubt, the treaty treated them as the main villain, they were forced into peace and that created future problems, the coming of Hitler etc etc. Which was what I was driving at.