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Old 03-04-07, 06:08 AM   #28
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This is absolute rubbish.
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Originally Posted by Neville Chamberlain, October 3, 1938
...we must renew our determination to fill up the deficiencies that yet remain in our armaments and in our defensive precautions, so that we may be ready to defend ourselves and make our diplomacy effective...
Great foresight! 11 months before the Nazi invasion of Poland and that's all you can come up with?!

But you selectivelty quote from Chamberlain's Oct. 3 parliamentary debate on the Munich Agreement. Why not quote Chamberlain in full:

"While we must renew our determination to fill up the deficiencies that yet remain in our armaments and in our defensive precautions, so that we may be ready to defend ourselves and make our diplomacy effective--[Interruption]--yes I am a realist--nevertheless I say with an equal sense of reality that I do see fresh opportunities of approaching this subject of disarmament opening up before us, and I believe that they are at least as hopeful to-day as they have been at any previous time. It is to such tasks--the winning back of confidence, the gradual removal of hostility between nations until they feel that they can safely discard their weapons, one by one, that I would wish to devote what energy and time may be left to me before I hand over my office to younger men."

Absolute rubbish, the fool.
With hindsight, yes. But this is a very respectful civilian attitude, and you cannot blame people for the fact that they are civilians.

What everyone seems to miss is that even the Jews did not take up arms against the Nazis. They allowed themselves to be led to slaughter like cattle.

There is a very gruesome scene in the film "Sunshine" by Istvan Szabo that illustrates this perfectly. In that scene olympic champion Adam Sors is tortured to death by Hungarian Nazis, in front of his son.

After the war, he tells his story his uncle, who asks:

Uncle: "So you watched how your father was tortured to death .. why didn't you do anything?"

Son: "I couldn't do anything."

Uncle: "How many were they?"

Son: "12 or 13"

Uncle: "And how many were you?"

Son: "About two thousand. .. but .. they had guns .."

I am saying that even the Jews themselves did not realize the need to take up arms against the Nazis before it was to late. Nor did Britain, nor the German population. Of course if they had known what we know today, it would have been different. But you cannot blame them for the fact that they wanted peace, at least no in the way you are doing it.

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