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Skybird · 03-01-07, 10:49 AM

I sound like a communist? Where? Exact reference, please, and pointing at the exact parallel to communist theory. But I see. There is only black and white, so if I criticise the Western system, that automatically makes me a communist, necessarily, even when I have expressed several things that do not only violate capitalist views - but communist views as well.

How one is labelling me, is not important anyway. If there is some truth in my opinion or not, that is what counts. Dogmatic labels are for trench-warriors. In all your replies, Neal, you have exagerrated what I said into extremes, like "paying workers 100.000 dollars" - where I had in fact argued that not so much the wages of workers should be multiplied several times, but that the incomes of top managers needs to be limited, which is something totally different. Are fictional extremes the only way to counter my thoughts? Does the ordinary reality with corporations like Germran Telekom or American Bell, Shell or Exxon, EADS or Boeing hold so little arguments able to counter mine? Sure, then exaggerations and extremes are tempting... I remember that several times over the years on this board "social market economy" was mistaken by several conservative people to be the same like "socialism". If you are not with us, you are against us, that means. What to expect then, when it comes to capitalism and communism...

BTW, I did not started this topic on Western economics, but on China - I say that for the third or fourth time now. I quoted the essay's headline as topic headline. But it can be a different headline as well, to take away the ideologic tension here: change it to "Does the Chinese system work after all?" The Chinese, said the essay, call it a "social market economy with Chinese characteristics" anyway...

03-01-07, 10:49 AM	#43
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,738 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I sound like a communist? Where? Exact reference, please, and pointing at the exact parallel to communist theory. But I see. There is only black and white, so if I criticise the Western system, that automatically makes me a communist, necessarily, even when I have expressed several things that do not only violate capitalist views - but communist views as well. How one is labelling me, is not important anyway. If there is some truth in my opinion or not, that is what counts. Dogmatic labels are for trench-warriors. In all your replies, Neal, you have exagerrated what I said into extremes, like "paying workers 100.000 dollars" - where I had in fact argued that not so much the wages of workers should be multiplied several times, but that the incomes of top managers needs to be limited, which is something totally different. Are fictional extremes the only way to counter my thoughts? Does the ordinary reality with corporations like Germran Telekom or American Bell, Shell or Exxon, EADS or Boeing hold so little arguments able to counter mine? Sure, then exaggerations and extremes are tempting... I remember that several times over the years on this board "social market economy" was mistaken by several conservative people to be the same like "socialism". If you are not with us, you are against us, that means. What to expect then, when it comes to capitalism and communism... BTW, I did not started this topic on Western economics, but on China - I say that for the third or fourth time now. I quoted the essay's headline as topic headline. But it can be a different headline as well, to take away the ideologic tension here: change it to "*Does the Chinese system work after all?"* The Chinese, said the essay, call it a "social market economy with Chinese characteristics" anyway...