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Originally Posted by geetrue
I hope you two (fatty & Kazuaki Shimazaki II) understand that the Russian submarine force is treated vastly different than the regular military. Just as our own US submarine forces get higher pay and other preffered treats, so do our counterparts.
Not only do they get higher pay, but the dependants themselves get better housing and preffered treatment in the military.
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I understand that. That's why I'm "isolating" his story to the Army. But the Navy does have its own problems - every so often you hear a guy stealing the palladium from his sub hoping to sell it.
I'm aware in Soviet times, they got special sub pay (15% more, then 25% over that for nuke sub). I'm not sure what they are getting now.
As for the better housing part, they are probably getting the
better half of what housing is available, but against that they are living in such places as Gazhievo and Vidaeyvo or worse, Petropavlovsk. I must say I can't see even the best house being too cozy there.
BTW, the US submarine force is not "our" to me. I know sometimes my posts might read that way, but I'm no American.
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Originally Posted by Kapitan
Yet another thing:
The russians are trained by the british and its known world wide that we the british have the best submarine training regieme in the world countries such as india australia america pakistan south aftrica germany france poland russia italy greece all send thier potential captains through the perisher, and some of the crews also go through basic here in the UK.
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Sorry, Kapitan ... you have a lot of knowledge for someone I have never met, but your love for your country just got in the way of the truth. No way will I believe that the Russians are trained by the British ... unless you mean their spys relay information to the motherland of course.
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1) Kapitan is nominally British AFAIK. He just has a Russian grandfather.
2) I wouldn't put it past the Russians in the post Cold War era to have sent one or two of their Captains to Perisher in the name of international cooperation. However, it would not be the majority - using the occasional participant in another nation's training problem is not a good measure.
3) In some ways, the Russian Navy is closer to the British Navy than the US Navy - for example their emphasis on specializations.