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Originally Posted by fatty
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...where the Russians are something like 70-80% professional...
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Which is still not 100%. In a "newer boat" like the Project 677, which according to Haze Gray has a crew of 37, you'd have 8-11 men who really don't want to be there.
On a side note, I am impressed by the Russian boats' low crew compliment. Akula-IIs appear to have a third of the crew that a 688 does! What kind of automation is at work there? :hmm:
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Then America might just have reasonably priced subs.
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Great idea. I am not sure about the U.S., but here in Canada we have companies that submit bids and compete for projects whenever there's a ship to be overhauled or built. Is it the same in the U.S.? If so, how do you think implementing a strict budget would affect these competitions?
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Well the russian subs for starters rely heavily on alot of automation however its well known western submarines are always over crewed ie they have 7 blokes doing the job 3 can do.
Automation only realy came to light in 1969 with the al'fa that was the first true russian automated monster, alot of its gadgets were fully automated.
Please dont knock the russian systems simply beceause if they had the american sonar screens then they would have the advantage and also filtering systems.
The range of the russian sonar systems on the akula I improved and akula II acctualy exceade in detection range compaired to the 688i, but the disadvantage comes with the screen the information is displayed on which cuts its detection range by about 1/3.
The issue has been addressed now and gepard and vepr both have waterfall display systems on board, there are plans in the works to refit the systems on the improved akulas also the newer SSBN's and SSGN'S and new builds the project 677 has a water fall display also.
i dont know how effective the display system is but i dont think its quite to the level of the american system yet.