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Originally Posted by Tchocky
Jihad (the lesser jihad - war with non-muslims) is " the Islamic mainstream.", but the majority of Muslims do not put it into practice.
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But the majority of Islam, as you call it, nevertheless is remarkably silent about the "extremist" minority that drums on very big bongos to form the world's impression of Islam. The majority does actively resist any codemnation of the minority's deeds. They resist the extremist's deed being labelled as terror. They reject any self-checking and critical analysis of Islam being the origin of such violant thoughts. They nevertheless for the most insist on everybody respecting the respectability of Islam, and the authority of Islamic views and values. they insist on their hosting nations to change accoridng to their Islamic homes, instead of adopting themseves to their new "home" of choice (that' why many of them are no immigrants, but colonists). And here these harmless peaceful majority of Islam suffers a serious question: if they do not want to be seen as violant extremists, why are they so hesitant about taking care of those violant ones in their middle, and why do they still insist on wanting to be seen as followers of a criminal figure like Muhammad, whose criminal repuation I have summed up repeatedly, so that I must not do it again? BTW, it is a problem of demography, too, for in the West the young ones currently are on the way to form the majority of Muhammedan population (this will continue for the coming decades), and in many European countries is said to be far more radicalised and truly Muhammedan than their parent generation. If in Berlin almost fifty percent of young Muhammedans say they want Sharia domkinating in Germany, and that they respect honour killing in families, and if in Britain two or three month ago a study found one third (or was it even more?) of Muhammedans supporting the idea of using violance if it helps to enforce sharia in Britain, and if in America a majority of Muhameddans so far may reject the idea of using violance (for they are more rich and educated than in Europe), but at the same time express their expectation that a new califat state will be raised in America by influencing education and oublic opinion and win the takeover of the US peacefully, and over a longer period of time, than all this ARE problems. -
The radicals are not there despite Islam's teachings, but because of it. And the overwhelming majority of Muhameddans worldwide obviously have something against holding them responsible for the evil seeds they sow. And this is the point when I do not care if they throw bombs themselves, or just refuse to hinder those who throw bombs in their names, and help to carry on the violant thinking by deceiving people and themselves about the true nature of Islam and Muhammed's as a historically correct figure - the guilt is the same for me. In fact they are indirectly supporitng the radical's deeds by making them appear as hrmless and not representative for Islamic teaching: and this simply is wrong. It is an (probably involuntary) deception maneuver. - Neonazis today have not commited murder in KZs, and have not served in SS divisions, and did not fought for Hitler. But they keep alive the thinking that all this did not happen or was just and fine, and that Hitler was anything but a brutal opressor. for me, they are the same bad breed as those Nazis back then who experienced the Hitler era and acted during it's reign.
Stupidity does not save you from being held responsible nevertheless (at least not in my book). - Reciprocity, guys, reciprocity. Let us build a church or a Jewish temple in Islamic countries for every Muhammedan mosque or culture centre being built in Europe since the early 60s (2nd Vatican council). Practise the same level of non-discrim,ination of Muhameddans in Europe as Christians, Jews and ethnic minorites are enjoying in Mohammedan countries. Put up that demand to Muhammedan countries, and see their heads becoming red, and global uproar and threats and flag burning and death to the West! and intimidation and mass hysteria and death for infidels! and allahu akbar and demands for apology and disrespect for Muhammad shall be revenged, and bla and bla and bla. Dare to practice reciprocity and let them taste their own medicine. Make them feel where their way of thinking leads them to.
Why should they change, why should they learn, when they are always getting saved from the bad consequences of their queer ideology's selfish thinking, taking that saving as a sign of their Allah and that they are on the right way? How could such a behavior of the West be recognised as anything else but weakness and surrender, an inviation to press even harder? It
IS weakness, born from fear and lacking understanding. Fear is a bad advisor, a saying tells us. So instead, demand compensation for the massive outlays the Western nations have agreed to in the last fourty years. when that debt is equalized, then start to practice accoridng to strict reciprocity. One chruch for one mosque, one Jewish synagoge for one Muhammedan culture centre. If then it shows that they remain tolerant and peaceful and agree to reform their societies and open them to other cultures like they enjoy the freedom to do in the West (while refusing to allow the same in their own places), then I am willing to talk again. Not earlier.