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Old 01-31-07, 02:37 AM   #23
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Originally Posted by waste gate
So this war is a quagmire? Let's ask a few pertinant questions?
1. How long has the first fully-elected government of Iraq been in office? ANSWER: 10 months. The cut and run crowd really likes to gieve democracy a chance, eh?

2. How long has Iraq had their first full elections? ANSWER: Just over a year ago, ditto the comment on question one.

3. How long has Iraq had their new constitution? ANSWER: About 15 months. How stable was the U. S. Government after its first 15 months?

4.How long has it been since Iraq had its first elected interim President? ANSWER: Less than two years, April 2005.

5. How long has it been since Iraq had its first multi-party election in over 50 years? ANSWER: Just over two years.

So Mr. Pull-Out-Now-Cut-and-Run Democrat(read liberal, secular progressive) we can see how microscopic your commitment to Democracy really is. You're more concerned about being called a Democrat"ic" party than you are committed to Democracy. If this is a quagmire, then you don't have any sense of perspective, not to mention a sense of commitment.
I'm not:

1. a "Mr.". :p
2. a Democrat, though I vote for people best qualified, not for their parties.
3. liberal - at least no one ever called me so.
4. secular progressive - oh, no, no!

But I don't believe Iraq will ever become a western democracy, even should all of Iraq's Sunnis and their local and imported terrorists magically disappear overnight and even should Coalition troops repair Iraq from top to bottom. See these very recent Iraqi poll results, for example.

The first advantage of being in Iraq is its attraction to Islamic terrorists from all over the world. Don't belittle this, as it may possibly rank as one of the greatest military diversion tactics in history. The problem is there's no way to measure what the effect would have been on world terrorism had the fly paper not been laid out in Iraq.

The second advantage of being in Iraq is being poised next door to Iran. Only the future will tell how significant this can or will be.
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