[bradclark1]

Originally Posted by Sea Demon

I made no such assertions of Bush lying. I think all the "lying" charges are totally bogus anyway. Bush is putting more heat on the Iraqi's because we have a two party system. And one side of that equation....your side, is intent on surrender, weakness, betrayal, and lack of foresight. So I think Bush is realizing that because of the whining from the left, and their own lack of any plan whatsoever, he's got to put some heat on these people before he leaves. Republicans like Hagel won't last anyway in the long run. So who cares?

Put it this way, getting our troops out of Iraq "as fast as possible" is not a solution to the problems. Finding a way to end the chaos, establish security, and root out and destroy terrorist elements is the winning end for the USA here. That's what Bush is working toward. Of course that means Bush wins and looks good. And you guys can't have that, so you root against the USA and whine that we have to get the troops out now and call it a failure. Despite those pleas from you lefties, Bush ain't doing that. Thankfully. So any point you could have made is totally moot.

I'll tell that to (R) Sen Warren. I wouldn't call making the Iraqi's do their jobs running. It might be okay with you to sacrifice U.S. troops needlessly but not me. Put our strength in making them take care of themselves. Your way has already proved to be the way of the loser.