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Originally Posted by geralt
VERY interesting
are you able to sit on the bottom in pure GWX?
I've done it by ordering all men to fore compartments and giving the order to dive to adjust the dive planes to diving position when sitting down there...
is this impossible with NYGM+GW?
I like the new GWX physics and the NYGM idea that stopped sub should sink slowly.
But to be honest I couldn't live without bottoming.
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Well in GWX, in reality you'd be sitting about 2 meters off the bottom and just hover there, but its still bottoming.
In NYGM by itself you can litterally bottom the boat, Flat on the bottom, with no water under the keel.
Both mods have the right idea, but neither one by itself is the complete deal in terms of sub physics in my opinion.. At least to my understanding, a submarine is trimmed for either Negative boyancy or positive boyance, with neutral possible but is realtiively hard to obtain.
Submarines in general go in two directions if out of batteries. Up or down. They need forward propulsion to maintain depth no matter what. As a saftey precaution, they tended to trim for a slight positive rise, with the forward motion over the hydroplanes keeping the boat at a depth. Think of hydroplanes being the underwater equivlant of wings on an airplane. A airplane just can't hover there, it needs forward motion to get an airflow (or in a subs case waterflow) over its wings to maintain its lift (or in subs case, depth).
Now personally i think both combined give the most realistic submarine model in the game based on what ive seen so far. Theres only one major problem, and thats we can't flood, or blow a negative dive tank. If we had a negative tank to flood, you could bottom the boat with both models combined. The other problem being that GWX fixed some items in the zon files. Which ones or how many i don't know, but an exampble being the "sonar destroyed" message in an IXD2.
Pesonnaly im willing to live with that for the sake of better physics. (its not like we havent lived with this bug for the last couple years anyway). Of course one could always hope that NYGM and GWX teams got together and discussed this one out and ironed the minor details for the sake of a better submodel, everyone would bennfit i think. I also think this makes the game a bit HARDER, and thats not something everyone would want.