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Maybe you can call me Skybird Junior after this but...

I must second every single thing that Skybird is talking about. The situation here in Belgium is the same if not worse. Islam will be our downfall if we do not react. I don't want to swap it for any other religion, as I am not a religious person myself, but Islam is fundamentalistic by nature and if I have something to say about it, I repeat what I have read on Steed's banner, I WILL NOT SUBMIT.

The problem is only that a lot of these people were born here and have the Belgian nationality. Even if they do not wish to learn the language, or submit to Western culture who has fed them and tolerates their behaviour on the penalty of being called racist, we can not kick them out.

Let me tell you this, the Turkish, the Jewish and the Chinese community here in Antwerp are not troublemakers. We coexist (not always peacefully) but at least the attitude problem I see with young Marrocans is not there.

In the seventies, the Belgian government, (that we voted for) invited 'Guest Workers' mainly form Marrocco to our country, because the employment opportunities were that good that Belgians at that time did not want/have to do so called filthy or lesser jobs, like garbage removal and coalmining to phrase a few examples.

Like Skybird sais, they talk their arab language or speak a sort of paegan Flemish/French especially because they do not WISH to be integrated. I am talking people who were born here, and went to Belgian schools. They esteem themselves to be 'special' and therefore, they develop a kind of 'gangsta' attitude, and the language that fits it.
We are talking about kids from the age of 14 till 26 years old, who kinda 'rule' the streets, and not only the neighbourhood they live in, who bully people on busses and trams.
Let there be no mistake :NOBODY forced them to live in those neighbourhoods or ghettos, but they did and still willingly go there to form their packs.
When they resort to violence, they will never do so alone. Alone they seem just as integrated as anybody else (the wolf's fur is still visible under the sheeps clothing) but once they are numerically superior, they (try) to force their will upon people.

And the politicians you say ??? hahaha, what a joke !

They live in neighbourhoods where Islam is a kind of fantasy coming from the 'Sherazade and the 1000 and 1 nights tale'. They debate about what a meal tastes, without even taking a spoonful.

Democracy ? I don't think so, pseudo-democracy at best, and then some.

The problem is this: As long as people vote for the tolerant ostrich politician, nothing will change. While the elections are underway we listen to politicians and their superb programmes only to be dissapointed when the real programme is there after they are sure to wine and dine on the taxpayers money, up until the new elections of course!

Tolerance in Belgium has been a misnomer for 'we do what we please or we call you a racist' kind of policy.

And last but not least: I don't think we Europeans should take lessons in tolerance from countries where the cost of an apprenticeship is 7 times the price for foreigners who really wish to emigrate ! That is for example Australia, I country I have visited as a tourist and wish to emigrate to. I have skills and I have a western culture, but It doesn't make it easier to stay 'Downunder'.

Our scolarship fees, be it for Belgians, Australians, Morrocans, Jews, and any other citizen of any nation in the world is equal. And what's more: if you decide to be taught an occupation that is critical to our country you will get the scolarship for free. Do you wish to learn a profession, and leave Belgium afterwards, there's nobody stopping you!