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Originally Posted by Letum
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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
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Originally Posted by Letum
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But that is not Judaism. That is Jews neglecting Judaism to suit their fancy.
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I don't believe for a second that a Jew from 2500 years ago would not be a little surprised by even the most orthodox Jewish teachings of today.
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Not least in the use of sacrifice and prayer that occurred in 70AD.
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All religions change with time, even if the texts and/or "binding laws" don't.
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The only disagreement I have with your statement is the use of the word "all".
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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
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Islam has also been changing since it was founded. If you want evidence of this then look no further than the first post in this topic!
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Here, too, the question is whether they are violating Islamic law or not. You use the word "tradition" very loosely. I am referring to binding laws versus non-binding traditions and customs.
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Empowered, feminine women have been a part of Islam for a very long time and continues to be so.
A good modern example is the election of Turkey's first female head of state in the 1990's. 99.8% of Turkish voters where Muslim at the time.
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How many were secular, non-practicing, or elementary traditional at the time?
Would you say there has been a change in religious trends in Turkey over the last several years?
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There are other examples of empowered women throughout Islamic history.
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Are there more examples of empowerment or subsurvience? What are the norms and what are the exceptions?
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As for Karate....check out "Nasibah bint Ka'b al-Maziniyyah, Umm 'Umarah" !
Yes, some Islamic states have poor human rights and ever poorer rights for women, but this is because of their culture against women, rather than their religion. When the culture changes, the religion will slowly adapt as it has done in Turkey or, as with Christianity, in Western Europe.
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In Islam's case, as in Judaism's case, the religion doesn't change. The religiousity of its adherants can, however. A big mistake to mix the 2 up.