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Originally Posted by waste gate
Don't back off your position. You are correct. It has been my experience that the only people who want socialism are those who either can't or won't give back.
Those who proclaim they are 'for the peolple' are those who's wealth give them a standing which makes them emune to the uphevel they advocate. As example, I give you the Barbara Streisands of the world.
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I hear you. But I'm not backing off my position that socialism is a con job that was derived from a bum (Karl Marx) that was not a net producer of his society. You are correct that "collectivism" is heralded largely by those who don't give or produce for society. But I think the other motivator is some sort of a "fear of envy" or elitism by those who have produced wealth like the Barbara Streisands of the world. At any rate, it's nothing but a giant scam.