01-19-07, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Konovalov
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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
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Originally Posted by Enigma
DUBLIN, Ireland (CNN) -- At a recent debate over the battle for Islamic ideals in England, a British-born Muslim stood before the crowd and said Prophet Mohammed's message to nonbelievers is: "I come to slaughter all of you."
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"Will you listen to me O Meccans? By him who holds my life in His hand I bring you slaughter."
- Muhammad, some of the earliest words spoken in Mecca, shortly after his first visit by "Gabriel", to people who rejected his claim to prophethood). "The Life of Mohamed", by A. Guillaume, page 131, quoting Islamic biographer of Mohamed Ibn Ishaq.
So where exactly are your heart and mind, Konovalov? What's inaccurate here? Gillaume's translation from Ibn Ishaq? Ibn Isaq? Or Mohamed?
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No offence but I am done debating at Subsim with you on this topic since long ago. In the past whenever I have sought to explain the context or historical timing of said Surah and Ayah I get no response and instead the goal posts are moved onto a new Chapter and verse or another Hadith. So excuse me if I don't bite on this one. My priorities are elsewhere and have been for some time. 
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Indeed they are.
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