The new virginias are good but they are still large submarines thier draft alone wont allow them into realy shallow waters where say a kilo can go or a 212 which puts the virginia at a disadvantage but only a slight one.
Despite being very quite the nukes have always been alot louder than a conventional submarine so in shallow waters with a conventional your basicaly not existing at slow speeds.
i have no doubt that the type 212 is alot quieter than a virginia.
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