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Old 01-17-07, 03:54 PM   #3
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Appearently the Sarcasm Dectector Mk VI hasn't made any inroads in California yet...

Thanks for the definitions of all those things as you see them, but they're a little off. Neoconservatism isn't precisely an extreme right-wing ideology. Although that's the subtext when the media uses it. Two of the most influencial neocons of the past 30 years were Jeane Kirkpatrick and Ronald Reagan, they got their starts in the Democratic party. That's where the "neo" in the word comes from, they were the new conservatives and changed how conservativism in general was. Being a neocon isn't necessarily a Bad Thing, no matter what the press would have you believe, it's simply become a convenient boogeyman label for people who are opposed to the current administration.

As for the Warhawk thing, no one was eager to go kill "brown people who pray to Allah" until they attacked our country. A lot of my former classmates and friends served in the little Balken Field Trip in the mid '90s, and their job was partially to protect Muslims from Serbs and Croats. So the argument that we're always looking to pick a fight with Muslims is bunk, they picked the fight with us this time around.

I'm not going to touch the stuff about the Avon Lady's Israeli interests, I'm sure she can manage that fine on her own.

It is sort of ironic that you brought the Israel thing up though since one of the time honored ways for people opposed to neoconservative movement, like Pat Buchanan, to attempt to put down the movement has been to point at the number of Jewish neocons. When you look at it from a fundamental level though it makes sense since many American Jews were Democrats and have since switched over, so yes they're the very definition of neocons.

Also as far as the war we're fighting now is concerned Israel is fighting the same fight as we are, we're both being attacked by radical Islam so I don't see how (since we're allies and all) an Israeli viewpoint is somehow not valid when it comes to said war. It'd be like ignoring the British point of view during WWII.

America's enemy is radical Islam yes, I may have missed something but I don't see any planes packed full of PO'd Swedes or Bulgarians slamming into any buildings around here. Before everyone jumps on my back about that one, radical wahabi style Islam is also mainstream Islam's enemy too. It's a heck of a thing when people are afraid to even define the enemy, let alone when said enemy isn't bashful at all about saying that they're ours.
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