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Old 01-10-07, 12:04 PM   #6
CCIP
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I had a rather bitter post up here and decided to remove it in favour of avoiding flames. If anyone read it, I still stand by it but don't want people to feel bitter towards me. Anyone offended - I apologize.

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Let me say this:

1. I'm here first and foremost because I enjoy subsims. I'm not really here to argue about society, politics, religion etc.

2. On the other hand I genuinely enjoy the open discussion on these side-topics here, provided everyone can state their viewpoints fairly and have a chance to respond to instances where they feel their viewpoint to have been belittled, attacked or unreasonably dismissed. It's called an argument. I've been raised in a context where, really, to debate is to live (almost). Even if I occasionally get bitter, I love a good free debate and am happy I can observe or participate in these at Subsim.

3. However I am not in agreement that the oversensitivity of one group should be given some sort of prerogative in determining what constitutes inappropriate posts at subsim. In the case of yesterday's thread, I'm not sufficiently convinced that what took place is not the result of catering to this oversensitivity.

4. I've kept my own standpoint at bay. In truth I would like to have the right to demand people stop throwing in religious arguments where, in my view, they have no place and damage the discussion. I would like to be able to attack religion and people's rhetorical applications of it, and do not feel this would be inappropriate or damaging to a free-speech context. But I've held back out of trying to be somewhat polite.


Let us assume that anything which could be perceived as an insult to religion is banned from discussion here. I am willing to accept this, but only if religion likewise stays away from what I could view as "poisoning sociopolitical debate". I have my own reasons to be offended by religious rhetoric, but I tolerate it and am willing to continue to do so within reasonable limits.
Otherwise I would see it as preferential treatment.
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