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Originally Posted by Enigma
you could go looking for those supposed phantom subs that were in pearl that day. 
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The Japanese mini-subs?
They were definately definately in the area on Dec. 7, and trying to penetrate the harbor. Whether or not one actually did manage to enter the harbor and do a torpedo attack is still up for debate, I've seen evidence that could go either way there. But they definately weren't all phantoms.
The USS Ward depth charged and fired on one of the midget subs at 0645 on Dec. 7, so
technically we did get in the first shots of the war. But the actions of the Ward were defensive in nature so that's fine with me.
When they recently found the remains of the sub they confirmed that it was sunk by 4" gunfire, and had no appearent DC damage. Probably since it was so close to the surface and the charges were set for 100', but the charges did lift the sub far enough out of the water for the Ward to hit it in the conning tower with the 4" round.