Welcome Swab! I have not had that many sunderland bearing down my butt like that! Go get GW and load it up. When you do, make sure you have a clean install. All traces of the first install must be off the hard drive. This includes the SH3 folder found in MY DOCUMENTS folder. Clean up the registry. Get the correct 1.4b patch(it says C but that is just a typo). Install the patch and then GW. It is very critical that the install is clean. If not, the game will not recognize any of the patches you attempt to use (there are 4 1.4b patches). If that happens GW will not install either. So all traces of the first install need to go