@ Rosencrantz: Personally think submarine simulations should cover all eras of history. It has just been released a WWI sub-sim (called 1914..something..dont remember), and then we have SHIII (WWII Atlantic), and SHIV (Pacific). I also think that the world is running dry on submarine-wars to make games out of (or vice versa). Of course SHIII / SHIV could and can be done better, but we dont want the modders to be unemployed,do we.....