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Originally Posted by August
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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
I have a problem with it. To drive on a state owned public street, maybe, to walk the street, hell no! I want to live in freedom and when I am starting to have to do things for the state when I simply leave the house, then I no longer have that freedom, and I live in a state policed world. No other way to describe it. I carry my ID almost daily already, but I do not want to be forced to carry it!
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PS. THat is not a phobia. Its simply about freedom to live my life.
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I once had this discussion with a German dude on another forum and he had a very interesting viewpoint on the subject.
He didn't see his ID card as a threat to his freedom, he saw it like a membership card. You see an ID card as a tool of oppression, but he saw it as a shield against oppression. Proof to anyone who saw it, especially the government that he was a full citizen of his country and therefore entitled to all the rights and privileges it entails.
I'm not saying either viewpoint is right but it's an interesting outlook none the less. |
That's sort of the point I'm trying to make. Assuming an ID card with no computer readable data on or in it, the card itself is not what determines your freedom. It's the laws that do and those need not have anything to do with an ID card.
Again, in principle I agree that any electronic/magnetic cards that contain more than the very general info printed on the card or that can identify your movement should be protested against. But an ID card which is similar to a driver's license is only as harmful as the police powers granted by the state.