[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Ok refresh my memory, what exactly did Iraq have to do with the islamic raghead's that decided to park a couple airliners into the WTC?

Im listening really hard, and all i can hear is cricket's on that one.

The truth is, Iraq has abosutly NOTHING to do with Sept 11th. What happened was Bush worked us all up into a frenzy playing on the average american's patriotism.

After septh 11th, Junior decided that we were going to wage a war against a nationless entity in the traditional sense as if it were an acutal nation. Afghanistan we were on target, Afghanistan was a direct response and the appropriate one. After that we went off on this tangent fueled by paranoia.

That paranoia being, "OMG OMG Hussien has teh WMD!'s to sell to teh ragheads!" Maybe he did at some point, but history sure hasn't shown it. Are we still talking about 9/11? No, i dont think so. Now we're talking about trying to combat a nationless enity by a using a rulebook that this entity does not follow. Radical Islam and Jihad is not a nation, it's an idea, a beleif, and it's spreading like wildfire - you can't combat that by traditional means. Our attempting to do so, has only made it worse, and now we're stuck between a rock and a hardplace.

(edit: BTW, WMD is NOT the proper term, it's NBC )

The point here is US government was fed the wrong information and pointedly so by Colin Powell who adminted publically that the information on WMD were tanted. He resigned afterwards. Furthermore, it was not that Iraq started the terrorist act but that Iraq habored terrrorists. In hingsight, Iraq is nothing but oil and that is all this war is about. Do not fool yourself into thinking we really are looking to instill democracy there, we are establishing a foothold to the vast oil fields. The terrorist attack on 9/11 was a good excuse to claim Iraq was directly or indirectly involved and although not responsible for this particular terrorist attack, Iraq has the ability to conduct terrorist attacks on a larger scale to which we found out later for lack of finding WMD in Iraq did not really matter as we are there now and in control of the oil flow. ITS ALL ABOUT THE OIL. Iraq is going to be filthy rich once they grow up. We just want to be their parent during the growing process so Iraq feels that they owe the US something after the smoke clears. That something is about 25 billion barrels of oil a day.