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Old 11-02-06, 06:17 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve
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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
You have a point, but I grew up in a world where it was illegal to burn the flag...
What world was that, exactly? I don't remember it ever being illegal to burn the flag in America.

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...and we were way more free back then than we are now, so I don't think your point is completely valid.
How were we more free back then (assuming I'm wrong above)?


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Destroying the symbol of your freedom is to destroy freedom itself.
Again, how so?

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The only real people who want to destroy this symbol and take the action to burn it are the very same people that want to see this country fall, so I vote to ban American flag burning alltogether.
I agree about their intentions, but they still have the right to express themselves. To deny that right is to deny a liberty that should remain basic.

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Originally Posted by fredbass
The flag represents my country. It's a symbol. We pledge allegiance to it every day. To me, it's just as important as the President and you can't make a public statement threatening the president so to me it's just as important preventing the flag from destruction.
The president is a human being, and one in an important position. We can't threaten him because it's too easy to inspire someone else to carry out that threat. The flag represents our country, and what it stands for. But it's still just a symbol. The founding creed of the United States is individual liberty. To take away any liberty because you don't like what it represents is to begin the erosion of all.
Back in the 70's it was illegal to burn the flag in demonstration. I beleive it was the late 80's or early 90's where the Supreme Court ruled that it was OK.

On the freedom portion - PC is where you right to free speech, etc. is eroding. None of this existed back then. Back then, you just paid a common curtisy to your fellow man. Now you are expected to follow a set guideline depending on whom it is you meet and to step outside of that will bring practically a wraith down on you. As an example, I still don't get why Spanish is becomming a second language in this country and I am still called white, when I can't call anyone else by their skin color. No one calls me European American. It's all PC.

To burn ones flag is to incite revolt, inspire hate,' breed contempt, and its the road away from Nationalism - something that is required to grow as a country. No other way to describe it. I do not think it is a liberty and the Supreme Court shouldn't overturn and allow, but they did.

Try and burn a flag in China and see what happens. They have way more nationalism than we have this day and something such as flag burning would probably get you executed. CHina will take over America if this trend continues.
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