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Richard Dawkins eat you all for breakfast.

Since I've been alive, "God" in the pledge has never been an issue until recently.

Which does not make it more right. Physical punishment, global warming and pollution are other issues ignored for the longest time and then suddenly surfacing.

Just that something has been widely accepted for a long time does not justify it.

The only difference now is that we have a very vocal minority of rabble rousers causing it to be an issue with their anti-"everything" agenda. These people can't let people be happy and choose to live as they see fit. They can't allow people in a city or town choose what they want to display. And now this minority wants to tell people how they should say the Pledge of Allegiance.

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Fallacies are cute.

Also, "Merry Christmas" was never a problem until these agenda driven leftitsts began their quest to shape American society to their own distorted liking.

"Distorted"? I thought America was supposed to be secular from the beginning.

And, of course, America's a multi-ethnic country. When government institutions use the term "Merry Christmas", it shows that they favour Christians, in stark contrast of what they're supposed to do.

There's this document called the "US Constitution". Read it some day.

Congress has begun every session since George Washingtons time with a prayer.

"In God we trust" adorns our money.

US Presidents swear to uphold and defend the constitution "so help me God" when they take the oath of office.

Christmas is a national holiday.

In the US Senate Chamber, over east doorway are written the words "Annuit coeptis" (God has favored our undertakings), over south entrance: "In God we trust". In the Prayer room (yes there is such a room in the Capitol building) "Preserve me, O God: for in thee do I put my trust.", in the Congressional complexes corridors: "America! God shed his grace on Thee, and crown thy good with brotherhood from sea to shining sea!"

The word "God" appears in the preamble in eight state constitutions. In four states, the "Supreme Ruler of the Universe" is used instead. By far, the most popular divine reference in a preamble is "Almighty God." This appears in the preamble of 30 state constitutions.

Two wrongs don't make a right. Or six, for that matter. Or, come to think of it, since we're talking about US government religious acts, a billion wrongs don't make a right.

Another fallacy.

Oh, almost forgot: Appeal to Common Practice, Popularity, and Tradition! Silly me.

Anyway, finally had the time to watch the video. He equated Islam with Christendom. Good one.

Indeed. Two nearly identical religions, when it comes to scripture, history, and violence all. The only difference is that when Muslims do something, it sparks tonnes of Islamophobia and mosque leaders are forced to publicly distance themselves from the act - but when Christians do something wrong, the fact that they're Christians is at best only mentioned, at worst ignored.

How many Church leaders publicly stood up to distance their Church from Timothy McVeigh or Paul Hill's acts of terrorism? None that I ever heard of. How many were even asked to? I'm not aware of any.

[...]if any Muslim commits an act of terror, he's only a generic religiously motivated fanatic. Jihad has nothing to do with it.

You make it sounds as if that's unique to Islamic terrorism.

How many Christian terror attacks do we have on a daily basis again? And since 9/11?

That the Christian media in the USA is reporting? Very few.

In reality? Plenty (<-- clickie!). Look into the militant groups in Africa. Look into the militant groups in India. Look into the abortion clinic bombings. The courthouse bombing in Oklahoma.

And, of course, while not all examples of terrorism, Bush's many policies during his adventure in the White House ought to be mentioned as well:
Torture,
white phosphorous over Fallujah,
starting a war based on lies,
and attacking homosexuality.
And more.

Check the site out and... Well, it's no worse than the other hate sites I've been to all over the Web. At least the Web Design's better than God Hates Fags'.

Finally, I would like to reaffirm that while many atheists are stinking hippies, many are also regular people!

I don't even get into discussions on how atheists are. Maybe it's because I'm from the "Atheist Bloc" of Scandinavia - in Norway only 19% believe in an after-life - but it seems wrong to me either way. It's like asking what blondes or left-handed people are like.

Re' movie: Bah, it's still illegal for stores in Norway to be open on Sundays. Can you believe it?
Fantastic film.

So this is about Newdow? I didn't recognized his voice. This is the guy who said he was raped by the mother of his daughter then went on and pledged in the name of his daughter, saying she was uncomfortable with the oath at school untill she and her mother came to public to state that they were Christians, had no problem with the oath and wanted to maintain it? In other words, a liar?

And this one is full of quotes from American politicians displaying all their totalitarian, theocratic and tyrant views: http://michaelnewdow.com/

More poisoning of the well. Cute.

"Without God there could be no American form of government, nor an American way of life. Recognition of the Supreme Being is the first - the most basic - expression of Americanism. Thus the founding fathers of America saw it, and thus with God's help, it will continue to be." Gerald Ford - December 5, 1974.

Nonsense. America was founded as an Atheist State. "Without God there would be no American form of government"? The Christians invented the Republic? That, friend, is bull-droppings.

*Pictures courtesy of the late WinAce.