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Originally Posted by Kapitan
When the last alfa came out of service it was a good 35 years old these boats have only been sent to the scrap heap due to thier age.
Also i have read some where that the 688 diving planes do not go full 90 degrees making under ice ops harder.
Bear in mind all bar the delta class are designed specificaly for under ice operations from day one.
No sub can out run a helo or P3 but we can hide in places such as the artic ocean and so the P3 and helo are totaly useless.
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the 688 goes to a full 90 degrees - I have pics of it somewhere, so your source is incorrect. Still, 90 degree sometimes incurs damage, so the 688i with the dive planes moved to the hull was created to better deal with punching through.
Why would a carrier battlegroup need protection in the middle of ice? This is why I don't get that comment about hiding under ice and the P-3 / Helo. The 688i would be hunting the Delta in the past under ice however, which is what I don't get - why would an Alfa be used to protect it? The Alfa would give its position away due to the noise it generated. Alfa's were one of the noisest subs ever made.
THe Alfa's strategic value is minimal as compared to the AKula (Or the better Sierra that only 1 was made as far as I know) to the old Soviet Union. There is no need to produce more expensive (Their cost was prohibitive - which is what makes me question their logic of why they were produced - but the old Soviets were big on intimidation, so maybe that is the answer? They destroyed the Russian nylon industry making the Tsar bomb simply for intimidation, so that is probably the answer) subs with little or no stratigic value - that is why you do not have any more Alfa's running around. Just my 2 cents.
-S