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Old 10-17-06, 08:34 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by Coda
For this I have no sympathy.
For what?

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It is extremly cheap and mean rethoric to tell people that everyone who get'S social aid is a lazy parasite. There are certainly people who think that taking aid money gets them more money than if they would work regularly. However, that vast majority are honest and often desperate people WHO DO NOT FIND A F###ING JOB. That is the problem: to few regular jobs.

the other problem is that more and more jobs are created that delete regular jobs and turn them into minijpobs and 1-Euro-Job. Being undemanding is one thing. Doing full work for one euro per hour is another thing in the main: the shameless abuse of those who alraedy are weak and are in a position where they cannot defend themselves. in that case, it is modern, legalised slavery. Of course sometimes, in some jobs that are not only "mechanic" work, but in any way give employees an idealistic reward (mand jobs in the social sector, for example), it is possible that some people accept one euro, because they find additional compensation or satisfaction in the special job they do. However, ideals do not pay your bills. I myself even engaged myself even for free in several social community projects, over years, doing what I have learned. However, that should be regarded as a private engagement, and not as a regular job.

Fair paymeent for fair work. If somebody spends all his days and time to work for a company, then he should deserve more than just a slave's wage. Where does it lead when a national economy more and more depends on such extreme cheap labour...? Who of you does hard work, raises 4 o'clock in the morning, has a 12 or 14 hour shift - for less than one dollar per hours, and 400 dollars per month being payed by the state as social aid?

for me it is a principle question, the answer to which decides if our communities (depending on healzhty relations between spending sand incomes, depending on taxes) can financially survive. such extreme low-wage job are simply unacceptable.

Some of you seem to have completely misunderstand me. I did not mourn for myself, or complained. I gave my own exmaple only to illustrate that accoprding to the standards of that study, I would be regarded as "poor", and can only live by the money I have per month because I am freed from some regular monthly bills that people usually have (car, family, rent for an appartment). so, ti was not about me, if you thought that. really, I live relatively happy and free of greater sorrows as long as i do not become crazy in spendings, and I do know that on a modest level my future and my age is safe, so again: i do not complain, you understood me wrong.

Read that article again, and what I said about children poverty, and then dare to tell me that all that is to be ignored and the guilt and responesebility of adult people that always only are too lazy. You are talking about several MILLION people you declare collectively as somewhat criminals. there is abuse, yes. But it is not the rule. If you think different, proove it before offending millions of people by calling them betrayers. The better part of the affected are desperately struggling with all power they have - only to see things not improving. It is detoriating since many years now.

I do not even try to go into the health perspective of things.

So, "no parasites!", yes. But also - "no predators!" , please. If a manager gets a 100% raise in wages after having kicked 5000 workers out of their job, saying that the company is bad off, this is shameless, at best. Such a imoral bastard would deserve the sudden loss of all his teeth instead.
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